Comments on: Please explain this to me http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/ The life of Charlie and various rants... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:40:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Charlie http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-148 Charlie Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:30:18 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-148 <blockquote cite="Jake">If America adopted the UK’s strictness on crime, it would drop like theirs did. Nearly 60% in one year!</blockquote> I'm not sure I agree with you. First of all, according to the data released by England, their crime rate has decreased by 44% since their high in 1995 (<a href="http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page54.asp" rel="nofollow">ALL CRIME - British Crime Survey data</a>). Also, according to a number of articles I found, the United Nations issued a report in 2002 that said that England had a higher crime rate than the United States (<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/12/01/ncrime01.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/12/01/ixhome.html" rel="nofollow">England has worst crime rate in world</a>). Lastly, the crime rate in the United States has been dropping considerably since 1993 (<a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance.htm" rel="nofollow">Key Crime & Justice Facts at a Glance</a>). Adding that all up, I would make the following conclusions: 1) Both England and America's crime rates are dropping. 2) Both are not as good as it could be, lots of work to be done still. 3) Neither is the clear "winner" in this area. Both appear to be in generally the same area in terms of crime.

If America adopted the UK’s strictness on crime, it would drop like theirs did. Nearly 60% in one year!

I’m not sure I agree with you. First of all, according to the data released by England, their crime rate has decreased by 44% since their high in 1995 (ALL CRIME - British Crime Survey data).

Also, according to a number of articles I found, the United Nations issued a report in 2002 that said that England had a higher crime rate than the United States (England has worst crime rate in world).

Lastly, the crime rate in the United States has been dropping considerably since 1993 (Key Crime & Justice Facts at a Glance). Adding that all up, I would make the following conclusions:

1) Both England and America’s crime rates are dropping.
2) Both are not as good as it could be, lots of work to be done still.
3) Neither is the clear “winner” in this area. Both appear to be in generally the same area in terms of crime.

]]> By: Jake http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-140 Jake Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:49:41 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-140 Eddie Izzard once put this into a great comedy routine. He said "You kill one man, you go to jail. You kill 10 men, they send you to Texas and shoot you. You kill 50 men and they put you in a round room with padded walls and give you a little round window to stare through. You kill a million people and ... we just can't handle it. We almost just say ... 'Well Done!' You must have a very busy day. 'Death, death, death, lunch, death, death, afternoon tea, death, death, death, death, quick shower." It time to uunderstand, "Except resonsiblilties for your actions!" If America adopted the UK's strictness on crime, it would drop like theirs did. Nearly 60% in one year! Eddie Izzard once put this into a great comedy routine. He said “You kill one man, you go to jail. You kill 10 men, they send you to Texas and shoot you. You kill 50 men and they put you in a round room with padded walls and give you a little round window to stare through. You kill a million people and … we just can’t handle it. We almost just say … ‘Well Done!’ You must have a very busy day. ‘Death, death, death, lunch, death, death, afternoon tea, death, death, death, death, quick shower.” It time to uunderstand, “Except resonsiblilties for your actions!” If America adopted the UK’s strictness on crime, it would drop like theirs did. Nearly 60% in one year!

]]> By: Matt M http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-85 Matt M Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:09:14 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-85 I agree with you Charlie. I remember at one point during the war they had thought that they had blown up a building possibly where Sadam had been hiding. They weren't sure if they'd gotten him or not. Had this been the case and the Americans had blown him to bits & peices with one of their "bunker buster" bombs, these protestor pansies would have nothing to say. Sometimes I'd say it's a good thing that we don't get to decide the fate of homicidal world leaders. If we did, then our 50/50 culture would not be able to agree on what to do with them. I agree with you Charlie. I remember at one point during the war they had thought that they had blown up a building possibly where Sadam had been hiding. They weren’t sure if they’d gotten him or not. Had this been the case and the Americans had blown him to bits & peices with one of their “bunker buster” bombs, these protestor pansies would have nothing to say.

Sometimes I’d say it’s a good thing that we don’t get to decide the fate of homicidal world leaders. If we did, then our 50/50 culture would not be able to agree on what to do with them.

]]> By: Christopher George http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-55 Christopher George Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:16:04 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-55 Explain it? No, i say, "Kill him!" Explain it? No, i say, “Kill him!”

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-53 Charlie Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:23:43 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-53 <blockquote cite="Zach">First off, I haven’t heard of any executions of al-Qaeda members, so I’m not sure where you heard that.</blockquote> I'm not talking about executions. I'm talking about killing people in the normal course of war. To me, there's no difference between shooting someone who looks to be the enemy (or blowing them up with a bomb) and executing them for their crimes. <blockquote>As for the long jail term vs. execution, think about this. Say you have a non-chrisitan in jail, sentenced to die. Do you kill him now, and basically condemn him to hell, or do you let him sit in jail and live out the rest of his life, because there’s a possibility he may come around?</blockquote> I can certainly see the logic in that and honestly, the only thing I can say is that I personally don't think that capital punishment is wrong. However, I can also honestly say that if you're not wanting to execute someone because of the above reason, I can understand that too. I just happen to think that executions help to solve the problem of crime more effectively :-)

First off, I haven’t heard of any executions of al-Qaeda members, so I’m not sure where you heard that.

I’m not talking about executions. I’m talking about killing people in the normal course of war. To me, there’s no difference between shooting someone who looks to be the enemy (or blowing them up with a bomb) and executing them for their crimes.

As for the long jail term vs. execution, think about this. Say you have a non-chrisitan in jail, sentenced to die. Do you kill him now, and basically condemn him to hell, or do you let him sit in jail and live out the rest of his life, because there’s a possibility he may come around?

I can certainly see the logic in that and honestly, the only thing I can say is that I personally don’t think that capital punishment is wrong. However, I can also honestly say that if you’re not wanting to execute someone because of the above reason, I can understand that too. I just happen to think that executions help to solve the problem of crime more effectively :-)

]]> By: Zack http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-52 Zack Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:50:59 +0000 http://blog.betablue.net/2006/11/06/please-explain-this-to-me/#comment-52 First off, I haven't heard of any executions of al-Qaeda members, so I'm not sure where you heard that. Some people are just against capital punishment, period, so they protest against it, no matter who the executee is, which I can respect as an opinion. Now, people who are complaining about it because they view this as a way to throw a monkeywrench into the US midterm elections is simply petty partisan bickering. As for the long jail term vs. execution, think about this. Say you have a non-chrisitan in jail, sentenced to die. Do you kill him now, and basically condemn him to hell, or do you let him sit in jail and live out the rest of his life, because there's a possibility he may come around? First off, I haven’t heard of any executions of al-Qaeda members, so I’m not sure where you heard that.

Some people are just against capital punishment, period, so they protest against it, no matter who the executee is, which I can respect as an opinion.

Now, people who are complaining about it because they view this as a way to throw a monkeywrench into the US midterm elections is simply petty partisan bickering.

As for the long jail term vs. execution, think about this. Say you have a non-chrisitan in jail, sentenced to die. Do you kill him now, and basically condemn him to hell, or do you let him sit in jail and live out the rest of his life, because there’s a possibility he may come around?

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